Women Trolley Car Drivers Hired After The Halifax Explosion

Maude Foley - Nova Scotia Archives

"It seems strange to see girls running the elevators and acting as trolley car conductors.  I saw a girl walking on the outside of a car and fixing the pole just like a man. What are we coming to anyway?"- by Carl Moulton of Connecticut in a letter to his girlfriend on January 23, 1918 while in Halifax waiting to go overseas.*

102 years ago today. for the first time, women were employed as trolley car conductors for the Nova Scotia Tramways and Power Company. Maud Foley, the woman in the picture above, was among the first hired according to the Nova Scotia Archives.

It was nearing the end of WWI and just weeks before, sections of Halifax and Dartmouth were destroyed after a collision between a fully loaded munitions ship and a cargo ship - the Halifax Explosion.  Nine men working for Nova Scotia Tramways and Power Company died as a result of the blast.  For the conductors who survived, many didn’t come back to work due to family circumstances or because they were helping out with the reconstruction effort.  This meant there was a shortage of drivers for the electric trolley cars.  Management discussed the possibility of women filling these positions and then realized it could work.

Trolley - Expo Rail

“On December 31 (1917) eight women conductors were in charge of cars, and a number of others were in training. The experience, so far, is that the services of women conductors are practically as efficient as those of men, and it is the intention to utilize women’s services for this purpose to the fullest extent possible.”**

In the early 1900s woman were making considerably less money than men.  Some woman in my family were making only $5 a week. The new women conductors pay was 45 cents an hour.  If they worked a 40-hour week they’d make $18 a week. The joy of their sudden sense of value and their new found affluence would be short lived since, once the men returned from war many women would lose their jobs to them. 

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* Maud Foley, street car conductor in Halifax, ca. 191; Nova Scotia Archives 199900096
https://www.flickr.com/photos/nsarchives/39513377794

** Report: "The Nova Scotia Tramways and Power Company and the Halifax Explosion". — 2 pages : 26 x 35 cm. Archibald MacMechan;  (year added to quote); https://novascotia.ca/archives/macmechan/archives.asp?ID=11

Nova Scotia SPC Rescued Animals with Help from USA – Halifax Explosion

Photo from - The Appalling Disaster

December 6, 2019 marks the 102nd Anniversary of the Halifax Explosion.  The explosion happened after a munitions ship and a cargo ship collided in Halifax Harbour. Its force leveled a section of the city of Halifax called Richmond.  To commemorate this year’s anniversary and the tree lighting ceremony on Boston Common on December 5, this blog is in memory of the animals who suffered and the men and women who helped rescue and care for them.

Prior to the explosion, many families in Halifax owned dogs, cats, pigs, chickens, and/or horses.  My great Uncle Jimmy Landry’s future wife Margaret “Rita” Jordan and her family were living in Halifax on December 6.  Her father, Charles H. Jordan, owned a blacksmith shop with a stable of horses.

Following the explosion, the animals of Halifax would suffer similar fates to those of their owners - with some being maimed or killed.  The secretary of the Nova Scotia SPC (Society for the Prevention of Cruelty), Mr. Murray, having assessed the magnitude of the situation, asked the Massachusetts SPCA for help.  Their response came quickly with a donation of $1000 and the deployment of two of their officers to Halifax to help with the relief effort.  Mr. Murray, these two men, along with a team of relief workers. would seek out and rescue animals throughout the city and into outlying areas. Because of the financial generosity of animal lovers from both countries, they were able to purchase much needed food and building materials. Barns were built to shelter the animals. Feed was delivered to nourish them.

It would take my great Aunt Rita's father, Charles Jordan a month to find his horses, some of which had to be put down. More than likely,  his horses survived as a result of this relief effort.

Thanks to all the rescuers, many families and businesses were reunited with their animals.


Note:  I'm grateful for family members who shared the information about great Aunt Rita Jordan Landry's family experience during the Halifax Explosion and to Archibald MacMechan, Halifax Explosion Historian collection article - The Appalling Disaster at Halifax. — February 1918. — From "Our Dumb Animals" p133. Massachusetts S.P.C.A. sends aid for animals in stricken city. Reference: Archibald MacMechan Nova Scotia Archives MG 1 volume 2124 number 295

Tree lighting ceremony on Boston Common on December 5 at 6:00pm https://www.facebook.com/events/1342416552631546/

A little information about my great aunt:
Margaret "Rita" Jordan Landry
Born: July 2, 1901, Halifax, Nova Scotia. Canada
Married: Boston  MA on September 4, 1924 to Peter James "Jimmy" Landry - born September 9, 1901 in Cape Breton NS Canada.
Parents: Charles H. Jordan - born abt. 1871 and Ida May Horne, born abt 1879

St Joseph’s School – Marie (Burke) Jordon – Halifax Explosion

Ross Dunn - bnw filter added

Looking at this photo it’s hard to believe that anyone made it out alive, but most did.

"Marie, my cousin, had a fractured skull... She was in bad shape for a while... It was quite bad, poor Marie." - Anna Bella Landry Bradley

At the time of the Halifax Explosion, my grandfather’s first cousin Marie Burke (age 13) was in her sixth-grade classroom located on the stage of the auditorium on the top floor of St Joseph’s School. The force of the explosion would blow off part of the roof above the classroom, causing the collapse of two over-sized doors onto some of her classmates.  Their teacher, Sister Ethelred, with the help of a student named Fudge, were able to free most of the girls, but three had not survived its impact. Along with the doors, beams had let go with one of them striking Marie Burke on the right side the head, crushing her skull. 

Marie stated that she had been taken to Victoria General Hospital where she didn’t regain consciousness for five days. Her stay there would span many weeks. She was diagnosed with Post Traumatic Epilepsy as a result of her fractured skull. 

Years after the explosion Marie moved to the United States where she married Clarence E Jordan (b 1905), son of Charles (b 1871) and Ida Horne Jordan (b 1879), on November 12, 1926 in Boston, Massachusetts.  

In her 30’s, Marie had brain surgery at Massachusetts General Hospital which left her seizure free.This gave Marie a freedom and self-sufficiency she hadn't known since before the explosion. She was grateful.

Marie Burke Jordan (b 1904-1997) is the daughter of Joseph (1864-1917) and Pauline Bouchard Burke (1868-1976).  Pauline and my grandfather Joseph Landry’s (1889-1994) mother Charlotte Bouchard Landry (1870-1917) were sisters.

Marie's father Joseph Burke was a Stevedore on Pier 8 the morning of the explosion, December 6, 1917 and his body was never found. 

Note:
I'm thankful for my great Aunt Anna Bella Landry Bradley's (1903-2007) sharing of family stories about the Halifax Explosion.  She was one of  my Grandpa Joe's younger sisters and he kept pretty quiet about it.

Other sources for information in this article - Halifax Relief Commission #393, Archibald MacMechan - Personal narrative Sisters Edevina, Rita, Ethelied, Maria Arilia of St. Joseph's Girls' School (Archibald MacMechan Nova Scotia Archives MG 1 volume 2124 number 18), FamilySearch.org

Could this be Annie and Clarence Landry who died in the Halifax Explosion?

Hundreds of photos spread out in two homes, one in the United States and the other in Canada as cousins sift through memories of two brothers and their siblings, who survived the Halifax Explosion. The brothers are Joseph and Daniel Landry. The present meets the past, as younger versions of our grandfathers and their families lie in front of us. Images are photographed or scanned, then forwarded to each other with the hope that family members will be able to help us identify the people we don’t know.

Then this photo is discovered.. Could it be?

In an interview, a couple years ago, I had been told that Uncle Dan had a picture of  his wife Annie and their son Clarence who died in the Halifax Explosion?  Could this be them? 

How are your identification skills?  My cousin Linda Landry Horne and I would like to know what you think. Do you think this could be them? Why or why not?

The first picture below is the one we found that we think could be Annie and Clarence. 

The second is a copy of the "picture on the wall" that hung behind our great Aunt Anna Bella’s bed.  

Annie (Adams) Landry is in the back row - third from the right.

Gibson Girls of Cape Breton - Which one was injured? – Halifax Explosion

Photo by timkraaijvanger 

As I’ve work on my family’s memoir, A Picture on the Wall, there have been many unanswered questions like this one, “Which of the Gibson’s girls, Mary or Vernetta, were injured in the Halifax Explosion?"  If after reading about them below, you think you know or have an idea of  how I might find out, I’d appreciate your sharing either in Comments below or on Facebook.

In a conversation with my great Aunt Anna Bella Landry, she told me about her home at 38 Union Street and mentioned the people in the house at the time of the explosion. Not everyone survived, but “… the other woman with two children, they come from the second floor down to the basement and they got out.” Thanks to the help of family members and research, I’ve discovered that the woman and two children were Alice (Robertson) Gibson and her two daughters, Mary and Vernetta.

At 38 Union, the Gibson family - Joseph, Alice, Mary (about age 3) and Venetta (0-1) had recently moved in and lived upstairs across the hall from Daniel Landry and his pregnant wife Annie (Adams) Landry and their 18-month old son Clarence. Daniel’s father and siblings lived downstairs.

On the morning of December 6, 1917, Daniel Landry’s sister, 14-year-old Anna Bella Landry was at home on the first floor, doing household chores.

This was the morning of the Halifax Explosion.  To get perspective, I’ve interviewed family members and done extensive research. From this, it seems likely that after the two ships collided and the Mont Blanc caught fire and drifted into Pier 6 and about the time that barrels of Benzol heated up then exploded like rockets into the air, Alice probably looked out the window and thought the ship was about to blow up.  She better get herself and the girls out.  Alice then would have grabbed her two girls, brought them into the hallway then knocked on Annie’s door urging her to get Clarence and head out, because they were in danger.   Annie chose to stay and pray instead of leave.

This time of the morning was probably Annie’s usual prayer time and the possibility she could have seen the initial collision and a smaller fire,  she might have figured the fire would be out shortly like usual. 

Alice then took her girls and headed down the stairs as the Mont Blanc exploded.

The force of the blast shot Anna Bella’s limp body out of one side of the house then buried it under shattered pieces of their destroyed home mixed with fragments from the ship. The other side of the house imploded forcing everything within it downward.  In an instant - Annie, the child within her, and son Clarence were under debris in the basement not far from an overturned coal stove.  Somehow Alice and her girls wound up in a space below the foundation where she was able to get the girls out, but one of the girls was bleeding, she was badly cut about the head with shards of glass sticking out around it.

Sadly, Annie, her unborn child, and Clarence didn’t make it out.  (From Dispair to Hope)

Rescue workers were able to dig Anna Bella out.  Though injured, she’d live into her 100’s. (A Picture on the Wall)

After a short stay at Camp Hill Military Hospital, Alice Gibson and the girls went to live with her parents in River Bourgeois, Cape Breton.  Not long after, Joseph would join them.

According to medical records, the girl who was injured had four-inch and two-inch cuts around her head that had become infected and she would be scarred for life. Though there are several references in Halifax Relief Commission HRC#1960, the girl’s name was never mentioned.

If you know which girl was injured, or know a way of finding out, I'd appreciate your comments either here or on Facebook.

Genealogy information below:

Alice Robertson was born in 1894 in River Bourgeois, Cape Breton, Canada. Her parents were Andrew and Mary (Thibeau) Robertson.
Joseph Gibson was born about 1888 in Amherst, Nova Scotia to Thomas and Marie Anne (Thibeau) Gibson.
Joseph Gibson and Alice Robertson were married on 14 Feb 1914.
Around 1915 their daughter Mary Gibson was born.
Around 1917 their daughter Vernetta Gibson was born.

(Note: I’ve been unable to find Mary or Vernetta Gibson’s birth records and am using the 1921 Census to estimate their ages.) It might be helpful to know when they were born? 

Correction sense blog was posted: Joseph Gibson was born about 1888 in Amherst, Nova Scotia not in 1890 in Amherst, England - to Thomas and Marie Anne (Thibeau) Gibson.

Uncle Jimmy Landry – Played Hooky – Halifax, Nova Scotia

My great Aunt Anna Bella Landry Bradley has left me with many stories about her family’s life in Halifax, Nova Scotia.  What follows is one of them, a story about her bother and my great Uncle Jimmy and his sometimes mischievous nature. It starts with a quote from Aunt Anna Bella and then my account using additional information that she and others have given me.

Photo by Paul Brennan at Pixabay.com

 “I remember when we were in school and Jimmy use to like to get out of school once in a while; play hooky on school. Well we had truant officers in them days you know, came to the house…  And this truant officer came to my mother and he was giving it to my mother… We all lived in the same place, the same house, up and down.  Dan come out and said you don’t do nothing to my mother. You get the hell away from here… and don’t come back here, he said. Then the guy took off. See that’s how protective Dan was of my mother.   My brother Dan, your Uncle Dan, Yeah… But don’t you dare come back here, Dan said. He took off. “ – Anna Bella Landry Bradley*

The truant officer and youngest son Jimmy were walking up to the Landry’s home at 38 Union Street. This isn’t the first time he’d found Jimmy out of school and he was furious as they made their way to the front door. Jimmy is slightly behind him staring down at the ground as the officer repeatedly bangs hard, with his fist, on the front door. A few seconds later, mother Charlotte answers the door.  As the officer yells at her about her parenting skills, she backs up.  A door can be heard opening on the floor above her.  Charlotte’s second eldest son, Dan, having heard the man’s verbal assault on his mom, rushes down the stairs. The truant officer looks up in horror as he sees this enraged muscular build man making his way down the stairs. Dan’s yelling, “You get the hell away from here and don’t come back here.”  The officer takes off down the street.

Moments later, after their mom and brother got over the shock, Jimmy would have been punished. She was strict.  Even though he disliked school, Jimmy made it to tenth grade, which was the furthest of any of his siblings; not bad for the early 1900’s.

 Did you like school? How about play hooky?

For more stories about Aunt Anna Bella Landry Bradley and her family, check out the following links:  From Despair to Hope;  The Armouries, a Great Uncle, and the Halifax Explosion;   A Father's Love;   A Picture on the Wall;

*The quote has been edited slightly in grammar and tense to its help flow.

Thank You Dad for Our Canadian/American Connections

Thank you, Dad:

Gerald "Jerry" Landry (1930-2000)

For treasuring the Country and people of your father and mother’s births.

Joseph Landry (1889-1994)
Gladys Nicholson Landry (1902-1988)

For taking your parents and your younger sister Evelyn to Halifax, Nova Scotia to be with family.

Evelyn and Gladys Nicholson Landry

For taking Mom to Halifax on your Honeymoon. She loved them, too!

Joan and Jerry Landry - 1954

For taking the time to get to know your Canadian aunts and uncles.

Myrtle Nicholson Landry (1899-1965)
Daniel Landry (1891-1968)

Abraham "Abe" Landry (1899-1998)
Edna Nicholson Landry (1907-2001)

Note: Three Landry brothers married three Nicholson sisters.

Having double cousins made it easier to cover both sides of your family at the same time. 

For getting to know your first cousins, as well.     

     

Helen and Leo Landry, Jerry Landry, Percy Landry, Ron and Shirley Landry Moore, and Edna Landry

   For inviting our Canadian relatives to the United States and the joy their visits brought us.

Back Row - Jerry and Joan Landry, Harold Babineau, Leo, Judy, and Helen Landry.
Front Row: Muriel Murray, Abe, Joe, Edna, and Gladys Landry, Shirley Landry Moore, Evelyn Landry Kirvan, and Percy Landry

Most of all, thank you, Dad, for fostering my desire to be close not only to our relatives here in the United States, but across our northern border as well. You left this world 19 years ago, but your legacy lives on. It began when your took our family to Halifax when I was eight. It grew even deeper when I had the privilege of living close to the Canadian border for several years and was able to visit on a regular basis.

Muriel Murray, Cal Shook, Leo, Edna, Abe, and Percy Landry

Since the photo above was taken, I’ve made several trips across the border from Halifax. Nova Scotia to River Bourgeois, Cape Breton.  I've been blessed to meet and get to know members of our ever-expanding Canadian family.  Shout outs to the Landry, Bouchard, Nicholson, Moore, Mulcahy, Murray, Bates, Jollimore, and Horne families. Love you all.

Looking forward to our continuing friendships and adventures to come,
Cal

The Armouries, a Great Uncle, and the Halifax Explosion

The Armouries, Halifax, Nova Scotia
Notman Studio Collection - 1899

Architecture has always intrigued me and a two-foot thick walled structure resembling a medieval castle, called the Armouries, is no exception. Its imposing presence towers above the North Commons in Halifax, Nova Scotia.  Magnificent turrets adorn its rough red exterior.  Inside is a large room in which troops assemble and spectators can watch from a walkway above.  Currently, the Armouries is undergoing repairs and renovations; some of which occurred during the Halifax Explosion.

On the morning of December 6, 1917, a collision between two ships in the harbor had leveled the sections of Halifax and Dartmouth closest to the blast. South of the main blast, the Armouries sustained minor damage to its roof and western wall, but its structure remained strong. This structure and the military men who slept in its barracks on its grounds were about to help in the relief effort.

As these military men and other rescue workers made their way through the city, extricating people from the ruins, smoke was rising from the munitions shed at Wellington Barracks, located on the edge of the devastated area. Shouts could be heard to head for higher ground.  Thousands fled to the North Commons: some on foot and others in various modes of transport from wheel barrows to horse drawn carts to automobiles.  The area on the North Commons between the Armouries and the long barracks, several feet away, were soon jammed with hundreds of bloodied people who were barely clothed. Among them was my great Uncle Abraham (Abe) Landry who was 18 years old.

Like many on the Commons that day, Uncle Abe had been injured by flying glass and debris when the ship exploded.  His left side caught the worst of it since it was facing the window when the blast occurred. After arriving at the Commons, a medical person removed the larger shards of glass but left the smaller ones. Then, without anesthetic, 15 stitches were used to close the big gouge in his arm.  Once this was completed, it was on to the next casualty.

Uncle Abe, along with others on the Commons, would be given shelter at the barracks of the Armouries where they received a blanket and some warm broth.  He and others could be found thanks to the record keeping of military personnel who placed the names of those being sheltered on the doors where they were located. Along with the barracks housing the homeless, the Armouries would become a food depot.

Note:  To see the Armouries' barracks click on the link: https://www.flickr.com/photos/rdb466/8272877877/in/photolist-dTXBjn-dU4f4G-dB3Ent-99oDRQ-ng9BnK/ Thank you, Ross Dunn for putting this photo on flickr!

I would love to be able to see the front of the barracks, also known as hutments. If you've seen them online or have a picture of it, could you share it with me?

Other sources:

The Halifax Explosion December 6, 1917, Graham Metson - includes The Halifax Disaster by Archibald MacMechan

Archibald MacMechan - Halifax Disaster Record Office Materials

Positive Life Lessons from the Halifax Explosion

Positive life lessons are replacing the horrors of the Halifax Explosion that have run through my mind as I research and write my family’s memoir.

1.  Be thankful for what you have because it could be gone in an instant.

2.  Doing acts of kindness during someone else’s tragedy, is lifesaving.

3.  When everything appears to be lost, look around and be resourceful because what you need might be close by.

4.  We are braver and stronger than we ever imagined.

5.  Individuals can survive and thrive after experiencing unspeakable horrors.

Maybe you've read about this tragedy or have experienced your own, feel free to add your positive life lessons by commenting below.

Aftershock – a quest to prove a man’s innocence – Halifax Explosion

In the book, Aftershock, Janet Maybee was on a quest to prove a man’s innocence. That man was harbor Pilot Francis Mackey.

Photo of  Francis Mackey
by http://www.pilotmackey.ca/

On December 6, 1917, two pilots, Francis Mackey and his good friend William Hayes were assigned to guide ships safely through Halifax Harbour.  Mackey was given the Mont Blanc, a munitions ship, and Hayes, the Imo, a cargo ship.   Early that morning, both ships headed into the harbor from opposite sides.  While in the narrowest section of the harbor, their two vessels collided.  As the ships separated, a fire started on the Mont Blanc. Over the next 20 minutes, the fire spread causing its cargo to explode.

Prior to the explosion, Mackey and the men aboard the Mont Blanc abandoned ship and made their way to shore.  All but one member of their crew survived. Hayes and the captain, on board the Imo, perished.  The sections of Dartmouth and Halifax closest to the blast were leveled - nearly two thousand lives were lost. There was a public outcry for answers to this horrific devastation - someone should be held accountable.

In 2007, Janet Maybee would buy a house in the north end of Halifax, on Cabot Street. She discovered that, not only had the house survived the Halifax Explosion, but there was a family connection to the man who was forced to carry the blame for the explosion, Francis Mackey. Janet promised Mackey’s last surviving daughter, Mona Mackey Homes, that she would do her best to clear her father’s name.  Janet set out to do so, with the passion of a defense attorney.  Extensive research, interviews with family members, and the unearthing of “newly exposed government documents” are revealed in her book Aftershock.

This book has been an inspiration to me, as I continue my research for my family’s memoir.  When I think of giving up because I’ve hit another road block, her work encourages me to keep going.  The answer might be in the next search or maybe in finding the right people to connect with.

Do you know James (Jim) Cody, survivor/rescuer of Halifax Explosion 1917?

View from Waterfront - Halifax Explosion - December 6, 1917
       Wikimedia,org

It was the morning of December 6, 1917 and the Mont Blanc, a munitions ship had blown up as a result of a collision in Halifax Harbour.  The north end of the city was obliterated. 

Under the ruins, flames were approaching as Jim Cody, an apprentice teacher, managed to get himself and my great uncle, 18-year-old Abe Landry, toward the light and out of the debris of Jim’s cobbler shop at 1209 Barrington Street. Moments later, the collapsed building they’d been in, was fully engulfed.

On behalf of Abe’s children, grandchildren, nieces, nephews, and those his life touched, I want to let Jim Cody’s family know how grateful and thankful we are that Jim saved his life. 

Uncle Abe lived to see his 98th birthday.  He owned and operated two business: Landry’s Shoe Repair Shop in the Hydrostone section of the North End of Halifax for 47 years and was co-owner of Landry’s Grocery Store on St. Margarets Bay Road with his son Percy.  Abe retired at age 95.

After the explosion, it appears that Jim Cody went to work as a watchman at New Terminals Railway.

If anyone reading this has more information they’d like to share about Jim and/or his family, listed below, I’d appreciate it if you’d share it with me.  I’m working on a memoir about my grandfather Joe’s family and their experiences. Because of the actions of Jim Cody, we’ve had many years of inspiration and joy with our soft spoken yet full of life family member.
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The Cody Family ages 1917

Father:  James Cody – age 42,
Mother:  Florence – age 33,
Children:  James age 7, William age 5, and Cecilia 9 months. 

According to Halifax Relief Commission Claim, the James Cody family had lived in Halifax all their lives up to December 6, 1917.

 

Home Destroyed, Family Scattered - Halifax Explosion

Monarch by Cal Shook

The phrase “Home Destroyed, Family Scattered” was used by a Halifax Relief Commission worker to describe my great Grandpa Joe’s family.  This phrase resonates as I go through records in an effort to discover where family members, tenants, and others were located after the Halifax Explosion on December 6, 1917. 

Many residents of Halifax and Dartmouth frantically searched for loved ones, only to discover that their homes were leveled and, in many cases, consumed by fire.  It would take my Grandfather and his family a minimum of four temporary shelters and two and a half years before they would have a place to call home.

Thanks to the generosity of some newspapers, individuals could pick up a paper for free and look for  information about a relative or friend that they hadn’t been able to find. This material and that of the Nova Scotia Archives virtual collection, featured in last month’s blog, plus previous trips to the Archives with the aid of family members, have helped me to gain insight into their many losses and their efforts to build a new life.

Even with this extensive research, there are some missing pieces as I continue to write a memoir about my Grandpa Joe's family, "A Picture on the Wall."  I’m hoping that there is a Halifax Relief Commission record for the Simon and Hilda (Burke) Myatt family who were living in Dartmouth at the time of the explosion. I’d like to include them in the narrative.

It appears that there might be some information missing from the HRC Case# 451 about great Grandfather Michael Landry’s family. What leads me to believe this, is that in their file there is a Leo Landry, a carpenter, who was lodging with a Mr. D. Sampson after the explosion due to a severe cut to the head.  Leo is not my Grandpa Joe's brother, since he died in the Battle of  Y-Pres in June of 1916. I believe the Leo, mentioned in this claim file, might be related to a Samuel Landry who lost a son Michael Landry as a result of the explosion.    According to the 1917- 1918 McAlpine Directory, there was a Leo Landry,  a carpenter  who was boarding at 36a Stanley. There’s a Samuel Landry (h=head) and Michael Landry (b=boarder) living at the same address.  If Samuel Landry filed with the HRC (Halifax Relief Commission), there could be some records related to my Grandpa Joe's family. 

If you have any information about the Simon and Hilda (Burke) Myatt family of  Dartmouth or of Simon, Michael, or Leo Landry who were living at 36a Stanley Street in Halifax at the time of the explosion, I'd appreciate your sharing it with me.